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MR. SYME IN REPLY TO DRS. WATSON AND GILLESPIE.
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Amendment moved by Mr. RUMSEY, and seconded by Mr. bodies that the courses of instruction required by after the wordsmedical students,’ the them should be framed in such a manner as to secure a due of attention, both to preparatory branches and to those resolution read as follows :’and that application for registration be made by every such student within fifteen days more strictly connected with the practice of medicine and surafter the commencement of professional study ;’ and that the gery ; and that it be suggested accordingly to those bodies that table be adopted, with the addition of a column for place of their regulations should be such as to prevent attendance upon lectures from interfering with hospital and clinical study." study." It was resolved,-" That the Council will view with approThe amendment was carried ; and having been put as a suhbation any encouragement held out by the licensing bodies to stantivemotion, was again carried. Moved by Dr. A. SMITH, and seconded by Dr. APJOHN,— students to prosecute the study of the natural sciences before "That every person desirous of being registered as a medical they engagein studies of a strictly professional character. It was resolved,-" That the name of John Carter Barrett, student shall apply (in writing) to the branch registrar of the division of the United Kingdom in which he is residing, of Castle Mayo, be erased from the Medical Register." according to a form to be had on application, and shall produce or forward to him a certificate of his having passed a WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12TH. preliminary examination in arts recognised by the General Medical Council, and of his place of study ; whereupon the The following recommendation of the Select Committee on &aid branch registrar shall enter his name and other particulars Education was considered :-That the several licensing bodies in the Students’ Register, and the registrar shall give him a be requested to furnish a short statement of the mode in which certificate of such registration accordingly." their examinations are now conducted,—whether by written. Amendment moved by Dr. FLEMING, and seconded by Mr. oral, or practical examination; and of the length of time a RUMSEY,—" That after the words, ’General Medical Council,’ candidate is under examination in each or all of these ways." the resolution read,’and of his having entered on medical Dr. STOKES proposed, and Dr. SMITH seconded, that the " study.’" clause be omitted. The amendment was negatived. The motion was then put Dr. PARKES proposed as an amendment, —’’ That those to the vote, and carried. bodies which have not already done so, be requested licensing The following resolutions were also proposed by Dr. SMITH, to furnish a statement of the dates of their examinations, and and adopted by the Council :of the modes in which such examinations are conducted,"That each of the branch registrars shall supply to the whether by written, oral, or practical examination ; and of the several qualifying bodies, medical schools, and hospitals in length of time a candidate is under examination in each or all that part of the United Kingdom of which he is registrar, a of these ways. And that the Registrar transmit these reports sufficient number of blank forms of application for the regis- to the members of the Council, in order that they may be taken tration of medical students.’’ into consideration at the next meeting of the several Branch "That a copy of the Register of medical students so prepared Councils." Dr. ANDREW WooD seconded the amendment, which was by the branch registrars be transmitted to the Registrar of the General Council, who shall, under direction of the Executive after considerable discussion. carried On the subject of examinations, the following resolution was Committee, prepare and print an alphabetical list of all registered students, and supply a copy of such authorized list to agreed to :each of the bodies enumerated in Schedule A to the Medical the professional examination for any licence be Act."*’ divided into two parts: the first, embracing the primary or " That the several licensing bodies be requested not to admit fundamental branches of Medicine; and the second, the to examination, after October, 1869, any candidate for licence branches directly comiected with the Practice of Medicine and or degree whose name does not appear on the authorised List Surgery. That the former be not undergone till after the of Medical Students, or whose name is not already on the close of the winter session of the second year of professional Medical Register." study; and the latter, or final examination, not till after the "That the several Branch Councils shall have power to close of the prescribed period of professional study." admit special exceptions to the foregoing regulation as to It was also resolved,-" That the examination in physics, registration, for reasons which shall appear to them satisfac- botany, and natural history may be undergone at an earlier tory." period than the first professional examination." Dr.WOOD proposed,-" That the Branch Councils be deAn amendment proposing the introduction of the words &ired to take means to make these regulations known to the " elementary chemistry" was lost. medical students at the various medical schools." Reports were brought up from the Committee on General Dr. FLEMING seconded the resolution, which was adopted. Education and the Committee on the Amendment of the MeDr. EMBLETON moved,-That the returns from the licensActs, the latter including a draft Amended Medical ing bodies, in compliance with recommendation 23 of the Bill. Committee on Education, and the registers of medical students Several recommendations of the Committee on Education °’ in England and Ireland, be referred to a committee." adopted. An amendment to one of them, proposed by Dr. WOOD seconded the resolution, which was agreed to. Dr. Corrigan, recommending public examinations, was lost.
HARGRAVE,—"That
share
" That
dical were
TUESDAY, APRIL 11TH. The Council resolved itself into a Committee on Education. A discussion took place as to the earliest age at which a medical student should be admitted to the final examination, and receive his diploma. It was generally admitted that twenty-one should be the limit for the diploma, but the Council was divided in opinion as to whether that should be the limitation for the final examination. It was ultimately agreed, *4 That the age of twenty-one be the earliest age at which candidates for any professional licence shall be admitted to their final examination, and that the age shall be in all instances duly certified. It was afterwards resolved,-" That no licence be obtained at an earlier period than after forty-eight months of professional study subsequeut to the registration of the candidate as a medical student." With reference to the course of study, it was resolved,the course of professional study required for a licence &hall comprehend attendance during not less than four winter sessions, or three winter and two summer sessions, at a school recognized by any of the licensing bodies mentioned in Scheto the Medical Act." Itwas resolved,-" That it be recommended to the several
" That
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MR. SYME IN REPLY TO DRS. WATSON AND GILLESPIE. To the Editor of THE LANCET. SIR,—In referring to the cases of my colleagues in the hos< pital, after they had been publicly quoted as evidence of my hostility to improvement, I certainly did not anticipate any complaint for doing so from their respective operators ; and in stating the results I proceeded upon the authority of a resident medical officer not likely to be misinformed, or to be iuteaitionally guilty of inaccuracy. 1
A SUCCESSFUL CASE
mn
Sir. &c.
JAMES SYME.
London, April lotli, 1865. OF
OVARIOTOMY
IN
SWITZER-
LAND.—Dr. de Montet, Vevey (Switzerland), has published hi the Gaz. Hebd. of Paris (March 17th, 1865), the case of a woman, aged twenty-six, from whom he removed a large mul< tilocular ovarian tumour. The adhesions were rather numerous, and required the ligature of severa 1 vessels. The clamp was used, and the patient was walking about her home on the twenty-second clay after the operation.
licensing
Amendment moved by Mr. RUMSEY, and seconded by Mr. bodies that the courses of instruction required by after the wordsmedical students,’ the them should be framed in such a manner as to secure a due of attention, both to preparatory branches and to those resolution read as follows :’and that application for registration be made by every such student within fifteen days more strictly connected with the practice of medicine and surafter the commencement of professional study ;’ and that the gery ; and that it be suggested accordingly to those bodies that table be adopted, with the addition of a column for place of their regulations should be such as to prevent attendance upon lectures from interfering with hospital and clinical study." study." It was resolved,-" That the Council will view with approThe amendment was carried ; and having been put as a suhbation any encouragement held out by the licensing bodies to stantivemotion, was again carried. Moved by Dr. A. SMITH, and seconded by Dr. APJOHN,— students to prosecute the study of the natural sciences before "That every person desirous of being registered as a medical they engagein studies of a strictly professional character. It was resolved,-" That the name of John Carter Barrett, student shall apply (in writing) to the branch registrar of the division of the United Kingdom in which he is residing, of Castle Mayo, be erased from the Medical Register." according to a form to be had on application, and shall produce or forward to him a certificate of his having passed a WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12TH. preliminary examination in arts recognised by the General Medical Council, and of his place of study ; whereupon the The following recommendation of the Select Committee on &aid branch registrar shall enter his name and other particulars Education was considered :-That the several licensing bodies in the Students’ Register, and the registrar shall give him a be requested to furnish a short statement of the mode in which certificate of such registration accordingly." their examinations are now conducted,—whether by written. Amendment moved by Dr. FLEMING, and seconded by Mr. oral, or practical examination; and of the length of time a RUMSEY,—" That after the words, ’General Medical Council,’ candidate is under examination in each or all of these ways." the resolution read,’and of his having entered on medical Dr. STOKES proposed, and Dr. SMITH seconded, that the " study.’" clause be omitted. The amendment was negatived. The motion was then put Dr. PARKES proposed as an amendment, —’’ That those to the vote, and carried. bodies which have not already done so, be requested licensing The following resolutions were also proposed by Dr. SMITH, to furnish a statement of the dates of their examinations, and and adopted by the Council :of the modes in which such examinations are conducted,"That each of the branch registrars shall supply to the whether by written, oral, or practical examination ; and of the several qualifying bodies, medical schools, and hospitals in length of time a candidate is under examination in each or all that part of the United Kingdom of which he is registrar, a of these ways. And that the Registrar transmit these reports sufficient number of blank forms of application for the regis- to the members of the Council, in order that they may be taken tration of medical students.’’ into consideration at the next meeting of the several Branch "That a copy of the Register of medical students so prepared Councils." Dr. ANDREW WooD seconded the amendment, which was by the branch registrars be transmitted to the Registrar of the General Council, who shall, under direction of the Executive after considerable discussion. carried On the subject of examinations, the following resolution was Committee, prepare and print an alphabetical list of all registered students, and supply a copy of such authorized list to agreed to :each of the bodies enumerated in Schedule A to the Medical the professional examination for any licence be Act."*’ divided into two parts: the first, embracing the primary or " That the several licensing bodies be requested not to admit fundamental branches of Medicine; and the second, the to examination, after October, 1869, any candidate for licence branches directly comiected with the Practice of Medicine and or degree whose name does not appear on the authorised List Surgery. That the former be not undergone till after the of Medical Students, or whose name is not already on the close of the winter session of the second year of professional Medical Register." study; and the latter, or final examination, not till after the "That the several Branch Councils shall have power to close of the prescribed period of professional study." admit special exceptions to the foregoing regulation as to It was also resolved,-" That the examination in physics, registration, for reasons which shall appear to them satisfac- botany, and natural history may be undergone at an earlier tory." period than the first professional examination." Dr.WOOD proposed,-" That the Branch Councils be deAn amendment proposing the introduction of the words &ired to take means to make these regulations known to the " elementary chemistry" was lost. medical students at the various medical schools." Reports were brought up from the Committee on General Dr. FLEMING seconded the resolution, which was adopted. Education and the Committee on the Amendment of the MeDr. EMBLETON moved,-That the returns from the licensActs, the latter including a draft Amended Medical ing bodies, in compliance with recommendation 23 of the Bill. Committee on Education, and the registers of medical students Several recommendations of the Committee on Education °’ in England and Ireland, be referred to a committee." adopted. An amendment to one of them, proposed by Dr. WOOD seconded the resolution, which was agreed to. Dr. Corrigan, recommending public examinations, was lost.
HARGRAVE,—"That
share
" That
dical were
TUESDAY, APRIL 11TH. The Council resolved itself into a Committee on Education. A discussion took place as to the earliest age at which a medical student should be admitted to the final examination, and receive his diploma. It was generally admitted that twenty-one should be the limit for the diploma, but the Council was divided in opinion as to whether that should be the limitation for the final examination. It was ultimately agreed, *4 That the age of twenty-one be the earliest age at which candidates for any professional licence shall be admitted to their final examination, and that the age shall be in all instances duly certified. It was afterwards resolved,-" That no licence be obtained at an earlier period than after forty-eight months of professional study subsequeut to the registration of the candidate as a medical student." With reference to the course of study, it was resolved,the course of professional study required for a licence &hall comprehend attendance during not less than four winter sessions, or three winter and two summer sessions, at a school recognized by any of the licensing bodies mentioned in Scheto the Medical Act." Itwas resolved,-" That it be recommended to the several
" That
dule A
MR. SYME IN REPLY TO DRS. WATSON AND GILLESPIE. To the Editor of THE LANCET. SIR,—In referring to the cases of my colleagues in the hos< pital, after they had been publicly quoted as evidence of my hostility to improvement, I certainly did not anticipate any complaint for doing so from their respective operators ; and in stating the results I proceeded upon the authority of a resident medical officer not likely to be misinformed, or to be iuteaitionally guilty of inaccuracy. 1
A SUCCESSFUL CASE
mn
Sir. &c.
JAMES SYME.
London, April lotli, 1865. OF
OVARIOTOMY
IN
SWITZER-
LAND.—Dr. de Montet, Vevey (Switzerland), has published hi the Gaz. Hebd. of Paris (March 17th, 1865), the case of a woman, aged twenty-six, from whom he removed a large mul< tilocular ovarian tumour. The adhesions were rather numerous, and required the ligature of severa 1 vessels. The clamp was used, and the patient was walking about her home on the twenty-second clay after the operation.